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Huge Mt. Holly Population Boom

Postby Scott L » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:57 pm

Wonder these things:

1) Why does city council not adhere to the long-ago formulated strategy of using Hwy 16 for industrial traffic?
2) Why is city council trying to recommend a 4-lane N. Main street?
3) Why are we trying to upgrade our sewer capacities well beyond what we "need"?

Let's look at a rumor to see if there is any other evidence supporting or debunking the rumor. The rumor is that 2000-4000 homes are to be built near Pinewood school. (viewtopic.php?f=8&t=81&p=380&hilit=new+homes#p380) There is no possible site in our town limits that could accommodate such a development. But if you look around for sites that CAN accommodate the large development, you find one in prime location -- just outside of our city limits.

Now there is some very interesting things to consider here -- some questions we town folk need to ask of our elected representatives:

A) Is your City Council promoting/developing the interests of an out-of-town developer of an out-of-town parcel over the interest of in-town voters?
B) Is your City Council entering into deals with Charlotte thereby compromising our independence as a town by "giving" our sewer system to Charlotte so that we can quickly accommodate a large, new development?
C) Is your City Council ignoring overwhelming evidence that the voters DO NOT WANT large growth?
D) Would it be considered "corrupt" for a City Council to act or be influenced in the interests of entities other than those they are to represent?
E) How much would town voters disapprove of any effort to alter the town and pay to support a development of this size without clear communication with voters of the intent/outcome?
F) Are the tax payers of Mount Holly paying higher taxes so that we can build the town up to handle this new development?

The rumor is the site pictured below (top picture) owned by "Walton NC Westlake LP". This could be the same "Walton" that also owns the River Park parcel that came before City Council in Nov 2014. (bottom picture)

This could be a good thing for Mount Holly -- but not if it's done by stacking the deck and with a secret strategy where the town people don't participate -- or even have the opportunity to participate. Anyone have thoughts or additional information? If there is a RISK that this rumor might be true, should we make sure our City Council is aware of this rumor and knows that we want them to support or resist any movement toward this end? Perhaps this is all coincidence or perhaps some/all of council doesn't know anything about this potential development site. Thoughts on that?
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Re: Huge Mt. Holly Population Boom

Postby Scott L » Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:49 am

If council wanted to prevent the rumor from happening, they could:

a) make a public record statement about the rumor/risk that would provide guidance to city staff that may support or not object to it
b) make it more difficult for annexations to occur
c) engage the public about any annexation topics that come before council
d) not take steps to upgrade the sewer system to handle this kind of increased capacity (that the voters do not want)
e) enforce our stated strategy sending industrial traffic that way to make it less attractive for a developer to use that site for homes
f) declare a reversal of the desire stated to the MPO to make N. Main a 4-lane highway

Inaction is not what voters want for something like this from their councilpersons. Because there are very smart negotiators/manipulators/politicians that indeed are taking action in support of something like this. Working against the people are: Gaston County Alliance for Growth (lobbyist group - which our town staff is a member!), Think Gaston (lobbyist group), Walton Development, City of Charlotte, and more. It's a councilperson's job to protect us voters! Please show up and speak up toward that result.
  

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Re: Huge Mt. Holly Population Boom

Postby rgwiazdzinski » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:26 am

seems like a recall hearing of a mixed use development near 273 / old 16 that would include a golf course but that was right before the economy tanked, I wonder if the wheels are getting greased up for a run at this again?
  

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Re: Huge Mt. Holly Population Boom

Postby rgwiazdzinski » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:30 am

maybe we should start an online petition to let council members and the mayor know how we feel about growth?
  

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Re: Huge Mt. Holly Population Boom

Postby Scott L » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:35 am

rgwiazdzinski wrote:seems like a recall hearing of a mixed use development near 273 / old 16 that would include a golf course but that was right before the economy tanked, I wonder if the wheels are getting greased up for a run at this again?


I'd like to hear more about that. Golf courses and the traditional large lots around them are low density and don't put much strain on infrastructure. But it could just as easy be a high density plan though so the devil would be in the details.
  

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Re: Huge Mt. Holly Population Boom

Postby Scott L » Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:36 am

rgwiazdzinski wrote:maybe we should start an online petition to let council members and the mayor know how we feel about growth?


There is a Strategic Vision Plan updating going on. When the public is asked for input, that will be the time to bring in the troops. But anyone can start a "poll" here on this forum if you like if you wanted to get a head start on that. From my experience, I'd suggest you make the poll only able to be voted by registered users. Otherwise, it's too easy to game the system and vote more than once.
  

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Re: Huge Mt. Holly Population Boom

Postby Bob Duckworth » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:28 am

rgwiazdzinski wrote:seems like a recall hearing of a mixed use development near 273 / old 16 that would include a golf course but that was right before the economy tanked, I wonder if the wheels are getting greased up for a run at this again?

That area isn't even remotely close to large enough to put in a golf course community. Those parcels are about 300 acres total. As an example, Verdict Ridge Country Club, which is similar to what you would be looking at, takes up about 280 acres for the golf course alone, Throw in 2000 lots at .5 acres and you've got another 1000 acres. There's simply nothing even close to that size up there. Even if you take out the golf course, there's not enough land to build 2000 houses on. For 300 acres, half acre lots (small for high end homes) would only yield 600 sites and that's if everything is buildable (no severe ravines and valleys.
  

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Re: Huge Mt. Holly Population Boom

Postby Scott L » Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:09 am

Buried in the Strategic Vision Plan RFQ:

"Develop a strategy and design guidelines to control the quality of subdivisions being planned on the periphery of the town that will eventually be seeking annexation."

In other words, let's make a strategy that shows how much we will invest in property and developers who aren't even in our town yet. Let's get City Council behind a strategy to benefit people they DON'T represent and negotiate against the people they are supposed to represent. This is bad government.
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Re: Huge Mt. Holly Population Boom

Postby Scott L » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:17 am

Walton International purchased more than 600 acres in Mount Holly’s Dutchman’s Creek community in 2012. A July 2012 investment report for the Dutchman’s Creek project indicated that Walton anticipated holding that property for four to eight years from the time of purchase.

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